Re: NA homebrew techniques? (I know, I know)

Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:40 pm

What's to say you need to give your friend a .5% ABV or lower beer? Go for 1% or 1.5% max. As shady as it sounds will your friend really detect an extra half percent or percent of alcohol? Obviously the main concern I could come up with would be if they got in the car at the end of the night and had a prior DWI and some sort of restriction on their license where they couldn't blow anything other than a .00 BAC. Chances are if they are a recovering alcoholic they probably aren't going to have 12 or 16 of these beers. (Althought I'm sure the amount of water in 12 bottles of 1% ABV beer is more than enough to keep you sober). On the off chance they did drink 12-16 beers, you really wouldn't be helping them recover by serving them a ton.

You can just tell him or her it is a "non-alcoholic" craft beer less than 1%. You can't naturally make a 0% beer considering the yeast needs to ferment something and thus create alcohol. I would just brew 2.5 gallons of 2% beer and then just dilute it down. If they don't like it then teach them to brew a NA beer better. :wink:

Mash higher, choose a yeast that has low attentuation. Use Pale malt, carapils, and speciality malts to add body. It wont be anywhere near the best beer in the world but it is worth a try.
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Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:38 pm

All this BS for an adult that can't control themselves. :roll:
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Re: NA homebrew techniques? (I know, I know)

Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:56 am

I am not trying to be an ass here. It may also be worth researching what is recommended to support a recovering alcoholic. Being around other people drinking may not be "healthy" for him. Being around his buddies who are taking actions to support him may be better. I don't know the answer, but a friend would consider checking into it.
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Re: NA homebrew techniques? (I know, I know)

Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:10 am

Boiling homebrew is the quickest way to making it taste like shit. IIRC, NA beer is made under a vacuum. Maybe if you hooked up a vacuum pump to a pressure cooker, you could remove the alcohol at a much lower temp, and preserve some of the hop flavor and aroma.


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Re: NA homebrew techniques? (I know, I know)

Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:31 am

Mylo wrote:Boiling homebrew is the quickest way to making it taste like shit. IIRC, NA beer is made under a vacuum. Maybe if you hooked up a vacuum pump to a pressure cooker, you could remove the alcohol at a much lower temp, and preserve some of the hop flavor and aroma.


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No offense, but I am not sure I buy that since making beer involves boiling, Can you provide something more as to why you say that. Boiling again would have the following affects as far as I can see.

Drive off CO2
Alcohol evaporation
volume reduction
caramelization of beer

So I can see it producing a change in the flavor of the beer, which could be good, could be bad. You would have to re-carbonate (My opinion would be to distill prior to carbonation). Loss of volume would be small as a still does create a vacuum, so only the alcohol would leave the beer, not the water. So the only real issue I would see with this would be caramelization of the beer, which if accounted for in planning, could be mitigated.

Now I must say that I have never tried it, so this is all just me speculating about it, which does mean I may be missing stuff.
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Re: NA homebrew techniques? (I know, I know)

Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:38 am

CRBrewHound wrote:
Mylo wrote:Boiling homebrew is the quickest way to making it taste like shit. IIRC, NA beer is made under a vacuum. Maybe if you hooked up a vacuum pump to a pressure cooker, you could remove the alcohol at a much lower temp, and preserve some of the hop flavor and aroma. Mylo
No offense, but I am not sure I buy that since making beer involves boiling, Can you provide something more as to why you say that. Boiling again would have the following affects as far as I can see. Drive off CO2 Alcohol evaporation volume reduction caramelization of beer So I can see it producing a change in the flavor of the beer, which could be good, could be bad. You would have to re-carbonate (My opinion would be to distill prior to carbonation). Loss of volume would be small as a still does create a vacuum, so only the alcohol would leave the beer, not the water. So the only real issue I would see with this would be caramelization of the beer, which if accounted for in planning, could be mitigated. Now I must say that I have never tried it, so this is all just me speculating about it, which does mean I may be missing stuff.

The flavor gets wicked bitter. Go ahead and boil and cool a little bit of beer and try it out.
I have cooked with enough of it to know that it turns very bitter in a very short time.
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Re: NA homebrew techniques? (I know, I know)

Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:09 am

Adam wrote:All this BS for an adult that can't control themselves. :roll:


He actually can control himself, and does. His problems with alcohol revolve mainly around several surgeries he had in his early 20s. He's had a couple organs removed that aid in the metabolizing of alcohol. He hasn't had a drink in years, and continues to come out with his friends when we get together for a couple drinks. This is less about addiction than it is about his body's inability to handle alcohol - it could hurt him pretty bad. I've decided that this experiment is not worth the risk to his health, but thanks everybody for all the ideas.

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Re: NA homebrew techniques? (I know, I know)

Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:51 am

Some of the bitterness involved in boiling beer when using it to cook is that you are reducing the volume, and concentrating the bitterness.

CRBrewHound wrote: Boiling again would have the following affects as far as I can see.

Drive off CO2
Alcohol evaporation
volume reduction
caramelization of beer


You've forgotten loss of all hop aroma and flavor...
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