Sarah Palin

[JP]

It's not like her personal views are going to lead to the overturning of Roe v Wade guys. This country will never allow it. Bush is Pro-Life, and we can still get abortions. Well, some of us can.

One of the best characterisitcs of a candidate is, I think, if they have strong personal feelings toward something and they don't let them spill over into governing the country. If they govern for the people not for themselves. So far it seems like that is what McCain/Palin are doing. Obama is like a fish out of water, flip floppin left and right on the war, troops, oil, etc. Funny how when Obama does it that is called "change" but if Bush did that, it is called "Lying".

[Brew Engineer]

It's not like her personal views are going to lead to the overturning of Roe v Wade guys. This country will never allow it. Bush is Pro-Life, and we can still get abortions. Well, some of us can.

One of the best characterisitcs of a candidate is, I think, if they have strong personal feelings toward something and they don't let them spill over into governing the country. If they govern for the people not for themselves. So far it seems like that is what McCain/Palin are doing. Obama is like a fish out of water, flip floppin left and right on the war, troops, oil, etc. Funny how when Obama does it that is called "change" but if Bush did that, it is called "Lying".

I am always amazed that JP is capable of posting these rare nuggets of coherent thought. And even more amazed when I find that I agree with him.

[Eagle Creek Brewer]

It's not like her personal views are going to lead to the overturning of Roe v Wade guys. This country will never allow it. Bush is Pro-Life, and we can still get abortions. Well, some of us can.

One of the best characterisitcs of a candidate is, I think, if they have strong personal feelings toward something and they don't let them spill over into governing the country. If they govern for the people not for themselves. So far it seems like that is what McCain/Palin are doing. Obama is like a fish out of water, flip floppin left and right on the war, troops, oil, etc. Funny how when Obama does it that is called "change" but if Bush did that, it is called "Lying".

I am always amazed that JP is capable of posting these rare nuggets of coherent thought. And even more amazed when I find that I agree with him.

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You go JiP

[PDX Angler]

I hate to post anything political but saying obama flip flops and saying mccain doesn't is an absolute joke. Don't get me wrong, I probably won't vote for either one of them but to bash obama and say mccain is steady is delusional. How many senators oppose their own legislation, i mean actual legislation that they themselves wrote and that bares their name?? Well with mccain it's multiple pieces of legislation and that is a matter of record. He even came out the same day his immigration bill was coming up for a vote and told the press that he wouldn't vote for it, i mean the same day he writes it and puts his name on it and then says it's bad. He also is against his own global warming bill, and his own finance reform bill. Last week he said the fundamentals of the economy were strong on monday and then 3 hours later he came out and said they were "worrisome". He's been for deregulation for years and bragged about it and now he is trying to say he's mr regulation. Palin has her own flip flops with the bridge to nowhere and those earmarks that she keeps talking like she's above them despite a history that shows otherwise. Obama said he wouldn't opt out of public financing and when he thought it would give him an advantage to, he did, he also lacks a lot of specifics. Joe biden is a massive train wreck that won't shut up and is a gaffe a day type candidate. Vote for whoever you want but to say mccain is steady or hasn't had massive flip flops defies a real look at his record.

[JP]

I never said McCain was steadfast. I was just saying how many people are willing to overlook that in Obamas case. And he can learn too right? What, is he supposed to not ever change his ideas in 30 years? That is not someone I want in office.

And about these earmarks, or Pork or whatever ... every senator in the US has gotten money from the Gov for their state. She got money for the bridge, thought better of it, and used it to better her state. How is that so wrong again?

I think Biden will be Obamas downfall.

[SacoDeToro]

Everyone is allowed to change their mind, especially based on new evidence and experience(s). Most the of the time "flip flop" is a generic political ploy that doesn't really mean much. That said, it's perfectly fair to ask a politician why their stance on an issue has changed over time (insert flip flop here).

The general criticism against Palin with respect to the "Bridge to Nowhere" isn't that she simply changed her mind. The criticism is that the impetus for the change in her position came only after the bridge was publicly decried and became somewhat of an embarrassment for the state of Alaska. It's a silly thing to focus on, especially when there are more salient issues that point to her ideas of governance.

[Henway]

It's not like her personal views are going to lead to the overturning of Roe v Wade guys. This country will never allow it. Bush is Pro-Life, and we can still get abortions.

Yes, they can. Bush has already picked alito and moved the court conservative. Breyer is 70, Ginsurg is 75, Stevens is 88, and Scalia and Kennedy are 72. If McCain kicks the bucket, guess who gets to pick the next Supreme Court Justice? Even if he doesn't, McCain has said his pick will be an "alito" style social conservative. My bet is their pick will have attended Regent University, like Monica Goodling and her ilk. Based on the Palin pick, maybe we'll get a Justice born in the 80s who can be a SCJILF?

[bcmaui]

It's not like her personal views are going to lead to the overturning of Roe v Wade guys. This country will never allow it. Bush is Pro-Life, and we can still get abortions.

Yes, they can. Bush has already picked alito and moved the court conservative. Breyer is 70, Ginsurg is 75, Stevens is 88, and Scalia and Kennedy are 72. If McCain kicks the bucket, guess who gets to pick the next Supreme Court Justice? Even if he doesn't, McCain has said his pick will be an "alito" style social conservative. My bet is their pick will have attended Regent University, like Monica Goodling and her ilk. Based on the Palin pick, maybe we'll get a Justice born in the 80s who can be a SCJILF?

If Roe vs. Wade is ever overturned (which I doubt), congress will actually pass a law before it happens to make it legal. With the dems in control they should maybe do this and take it off the table for the judges to decide. Enough people in this country support the right to choose against preserving an embryonic life in the case of rape, first (and maybe 2nd) trimester, and anytime if the health of the mother is at risk. The majority may not support the "partial birth" abortions unless absolutely required for the heath of the mother, but if the kid is half out already I wonder how often that would be the case. And the majority may not support others to pay for your abortion(s) which is where the argument has shifted to.