TimmyR wrote:I do not know how Stone gets so much hop to overwhelm the 007 esters I think I taste. Well see how my American Brown and Porter do.
I believe Stone uses a proprietary strain banked at White Labs. 007 will get you close, but I don't think it's the same yeast...
When listening to CYBI, I was really surprised at how many West Coast brewers used English strains. I thought it was due to the better flocculation, now I hear from this thread that there's a flavor benefit, too. Cool!