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Char-Broil Natural Gas Hose with Blichmann Floor Burner?

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Char-Broil Natural Gas Hose with Blichmann Floor Burner?

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:38 pm
by ultravista
I plan on converting a Blichmann floor standing burner to NG and need a hose from the gas stub to the burner. It is 3/8 hose.

Will a Char-Broil Natural Gas Connect Kit work for this burner?

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It's here at Lowes:
[url="http://www.lowes.com/pd_206469-451-4384203_4294936849__?productId=1058699"]http://www.lowes.com/pd_206469-451-4384203_4294936849__?productId=1058699[/url]

Is there a better / cheaper solution? Can I use another type of hose to feed the NG to the burner? Must I use a NG specific hose or ?

Re: Char-Broil Natural Gas Hose with Blichmann Floor Burner?

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:13 pm
by gwk453
There is no cheap safe conversion to natural gas. My single Blichmann burner runs off natural gas! It works great on my 20 gallon pot. A 12 foot, 1/2" ID hose supplies it. I figured when I go to multi burner top tier, I would need the 1/2 supply. It is installed with quick disconnects on both ends. The cost of propane is increasing and the cost of a 30 lb. tank is not cheap either. It is really one less hassle to contend with on brewing day! Priceless! You can get the hose and disconnects from http://www.tejassmokers.com. The fittings you can get from http://www.fittingsandmore.com. If you are clueless about plumbing natural gas, get professional help. If you need specifics on fittings contact me. Good Brewing!

Re: Char-Broil Natural Gas Hose with Blichmann Floor Burner?

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:46 pm
by ultravista
gwk453 - I am buying the Blichmann with their NG conversion kit. My gas is stubbed at the patio, 1/2 capped pipe. I plan on replacing the cap with a 90 elbow (downwards) and a gas rated ball valve.

The Char-Broil hose is 3/8 and should (?) be enough to power the burner. The hose comes with a single QD at the gas connection side. I will need another QD for the burner side. I do not plan on adding any other burners.

All of the QD's I have seen have the flow marked on the unit. Do you know if the flow is important? I can't see how that plays a role in the gas movement.

If you don't mind, please point tell me which QD's you used.

Tejassmokers says:
"Choose 3/8" ID natural gas appliance connector hose to deliver gas up to 60,000 BTU/hr (at 1.6" WC pressure drop)"

"Choose 1/2" ID natural gas appliance connector hose to deliver gas 70,000 to 115,000 BTU/hr (at 1.3" WC pressure drop)"

The Blichmann is rated at 60,000 BTU so it looks like the 3/8 hose will work.

I'll call Tejas tomorrow.

Re: Char-Broil Natural Gas Hose with Blichmann Floor Burner?

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:10 pm
by gwk453
Sweet seems like you all set for natural gas!
Remove the cap, dope the theads, and install a reducer elbow 1/2 X 3/8 in. Short 3/8 nipple to a Tejas 3/8 QD ball valve #104007@ $39.95. No gas will flow without the mating QD plugged in. In other words a child or some ass hat can't inadvertantly vent gas accidentally to dick with your gas bill. You need one #401207 3/8 male plug QD @ $12.95 and one # 104001 3/8" QD Socket @ $24.95. I got a 12 Ft hose and am glad I did! (I was thinking shorter)#100484 @$44.95

For brass ( SAE 45 degree Flare Fittings ) You need two male adapters 3/8 Flare X 3/8 Male NPT which you can get @ Lowe's or Home Depot. The tuff part which are essential to connect to the Blichmann orifice valve which is a 3/8 male flare, I got from http://www.fittingsandmore are one #10-136, a 3/8 female flare Union, and last but not least get four Copper Gaskets #10-087 3/8 " to use on all 3/8 flare connections and have a couple of spares. Copper forms an excellent seal! Their shipping is a little slow so order soon.

I sized down to your 3/8 ID which should be fine@ 60,000 BTU
I dealt with Cheyenne @ Tejas who was very helpful @ phone # 713-222-0077

Re: Char-Broil Natural Gas Hose with Blichmann Floor Burner?

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:05 pm
by ultravista
Do you have any photos of your handy-work? I'd like to see what you have built in regards to the burner.

Thank you for the help.

Re: Char-Broil Natural Gas Hose with Blichmann Floor Burner?

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:38 pm
by ultravista
Do you know why the male NG quick disconnect has the bar across the tip?

Is it meant to depress a valve or .... ?
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Re: Char-Broil Natural Gas Hose with Blichmann Floor Burner?

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:56 pm
by Kbar
ultravista wrote:gwk453 -
All of the QD's I have seen have the flow marked on the unit. Do you know if the flow is important? I can't see how that plays a role in the gas movement.


Flow - measurement of the amount of fluid (Volume) per unit time. More gas = more heat...........Yes, important......I believe residential systems are reduced to 1/2 Psi to the home after the reducing valve. Not much allowable fuel line pressure drop.

Re: Char-Broil Natural Gas Hose with Blichmann Floor Burner?

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:21 am
by ultravista
Kbar - do you know about the tips of the male quick disconnect? I am curious ...

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