Sarah Palin

[Henway]

If Roe vs. Wade is ever overturned (which I doubt), congress will actually pass a law before it happens to make it legal. With the dems in control they should maybe do this and take it off the table for the judges to decide...

And the Pres van veto, in which case BOTH the Senate and House need 2/3 to override. In spite of strong support for Roe V. Wade in the public, getting 2/3 is difficult in any circumstance and the Congressmen on the fence would demand concessions in other arenas for their vote. Slippery slope and stuff....

[bcmaui]

If Roe vs. Wade is ever overturned (which I doubt), congress will actually pass a law before it happens to make it legal. With the dems in control they should maybe do this and take it off the table for the judges to decide...

And the Pres van veto, in which case BOTH the Senate and House need 2/3 to override. In spite of strong support for Roe V. Wade in the public, getting 2/3 is difficult in any circumstance and the Congressmen on the fence would demand concessions in other arenas for their vote. Slippery slope and stuff....

If it became law we would not leave it to judges. A few men and women in black robes should be reviewing law, not making it up. As this isssue is a very important issue to Obama voters, if he wins and still has control of the congress as everyone expects he will, he just needs to pass the law already. Or possibly did Carter and Clinton (when he had a Dem Congress) not address when they were in power before, so it can always be brought up as an issue at every election?

[SacoDeToro]

If it became law we would not leave it to judges. A few men and women in black robes should be reviewing law, not making it up.

Congressionally approved laws have been challenged in the Surpreme Court many times. If the Court decides to hear the case, then the final rendering will be left to the judges. Roe V. Wade is such a case. Most laws against abortion were ruled to have violated the right to privacy as interpreted under the 14 Amendment. This is old news. Supreme Court decisions are not trivial events. Because of the relative unlikelihood that a case is even heard by the Court, the decisions that it renders are likely to stand for a substantial period of time thereafter. And while Supreme Court justices are not supposed to allow personal and political conviction to affect their decision (aka "legislating from the bench") we know this in fact happens. Mapp V. Ohio is an historic example by which many have argued that this occurred.

[TapItGood]

Oh Yeah...she looks like the slutty librian I tapped in the stacks my senior year of high school...It gave new meaning to detention. Memories...from deep within my lions.

[bcmaui]

Just out, an updated list of the wealthiest members of Congress - fat cats are pretty equally divided on both sides of the isle. I'm sure Sen. Feinstein's wealth was really helped recently by all of the military hardware her husband sold to the government while she sat on the Appropiation's committee. Conflict of interest, not at all? I love how the stong union advocate Nancy Pelosi uses non-union labor at the restaurant and hotel in Napa she and he husband own as they increase their wealth on the backs of scab labor.

Sen. Ted Kennedy, for example, reports a worth of less than $48 million on his disclosure form, while his trusts have reportedly been valued at over $500 million.

Here is the top 10:

1. Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass. — $230.98 million.

Kerry’s wife Teresa is the widow of Heinz ketchup heir John Heinz, and Forbes magazine has estimated the couple’s actual worth at $1 billion.

2. Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif. — $225.96 million

Harman is heavily invested in Harman International Industries, an electronics firm founded by her husband.

3. Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif. — $160.62 million

Issa is the founder of Directed Electronics, which manufactures car alarms.

4. Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va. — $80.4 million

The senator is a descendant of oil tycoon John D. Rockefeller.

5. Rep. Robin Hayes, R-N.C. — $78.96 million

Hayes inherited millions when his mother died in 2007, and he has large holdings in stocks, bonds, and real estate.

6. Rep. Vern Buchanan, R-Fla. — $65.49 million

The congressman owns several car dealerships and an aircraft charter business.

7. Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J. — $55.33 million

Lautenberg made millions from the payroll processing firm he founded.

8. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. — $52.34 million

The senator is married to financier Richard Blum, and the couple own all or part of numerous limited partnerships.

9. Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass. — $47.62 million

Much of Kennedy’s wealth comes from family trusts, including one valued from $25 million to $50 million.

10. Sen. Gordon Smith, R-Ore. — $28.65 million

Smith’s fortune comes largely from Smith Food Sales, which markets frozen vegetables.

The list of 50 includes 23 Democrats in all, including Rep. Nancy Pelosi at No. 17 ($18.71 million) and Sen. Hillary Clinton at No. 29 ($10.39 million).

Sen. John McCain is No. 13 with $19.64 million, although some media outlets have stated that his wife Cindy’s net worth may exceed $100 million.

[BrewTa2]

Memories...from deep within my lions.

In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the loin sleeps tonight.

[SacoDeToro]

Memories...from deep within my lions.

In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the loin sleeps tonight.

Whatever, dude. My lion's partying tonight, even if I have to fluff his mane myself!

[oneal66]

Memories...from deep within my lions.

In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the loin sleeps tonight.

Whatever, dude. My lion's partying tonight, even if I have to fluff his mane myself!

I've said it once to get the thread back on topic, and now I'll say it again...

VPILF

or LILF (Librarian I'd ...you get the picture)

ok gents resume bs political banter